Prop note: "Live and uncut" means just that. As I promised Spartacus, there is no editing nor censorship of any kind. I get no credit for his brilliance nor blame for his errors. My first reading of this post will be post-publication. In the spirit of shoving it in and checking the results the next day, aqui se presenta su vaina (my favorite Spanish word!):
http://mysaturdayeveningpost.blogspot.com/
Happy Panamanian Independence (from Spain) Day. Every fucking day is Independence Day from the U.S.
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Cultural Camouflage
First, I want to thank Kelso for giving me this opportunity to guest post on his blog. I feel like I’ve lost some type of virginity by doing so, as this is my first time ever as a guest blogger. It’s like some measure of innocence has been beautifully lost. Kelso, my hope is that you’ll tell me this experience was good for you, too. ;)
One of the tangents that Kelso and I share is that we were both born and lived on the Borough of Manhattan, New York City. Naturally, there’s always going to be some interborough rivalry because everyone from NYC thinks theirs is better. Jay-Z and Spike Lee would tell you Brooklyn is where it’s at. Grand Master Flash would chime that Da Bronx is in the house. The Ramones would have us hitch a ride to Rockaway Beach, which is part of Queens. And no one from NYC cares about Staten Island. But all New Yorkers knows what place “there” meant to Mr. Sinatra when he crooned
If I can make it there
I’ll make it anywhere….
He was talking about none other than the Isle of Manhattan.
It was on this island that I learned my sense of righteousness and civility. Yes, even in the dark days of the 1970s when tenements were burning like the Malibu wildfires and New York had a higher murder rate than Detroit, MI, there were some wonderful life lessons being taught to and learned by “inner-city” kids.
But I wasn’t always an inner-city kid. Sometime in 1978, my parents pulled a page from The Jeffersons and moved on up to Richmond Hill, Queens where I learned that not everywhere in New York was like Avenue D and 6th Street, and my white skin and straight hair were no longer symbols of derision, but camouflaging assets. I was now a white boy in a white boy’s land and was expected to act as such. Any other behavior would garnish a beating. Seriously.
This point was brought home to me recently when my very white friend, Chuck, called to say hello and shoot the shit. Chuck is always good for random friendly calls like that and it’s part of what makes him endearing. However, he literally stopped me in my tracks when for no reason he blurted, “Look at this. The niggers are everywhere.” I let the phone go silent for a few moments. I needed to think before I responded.
I then called Chuck on his comments in search of an explanation. The hesitation in his voice was a tell-tale sign that he stepped on a linguistic landmine; that some how he was being put on the spot. He was.
Me: What do you mean Chuck? Are you saying that wherever black folk settle, blight follows?
Chuck: You know what I meant, dude.
Me: Yeah, I do. Sort of. But is it your contention that the cause of blight is a black thing?
Chuck: Well look around. I work in different black neighborhoods all the time and I wonder if some of these places were once nice.
Me: Understood. But have you ever been to or seen pictures of blighted places in Kentucky, West Virginia, and Mississippi that are all white?
Chuck: What are you saying?
Me: I’m saying that maybe you’re being a bit unfair in your judgment, and I’m asking you to reconsider the thought.
I know I was letting him off easy, but I had a reason. To chastise him and call him a racist would serve no purpose but inflame his feelings. It would also be a hypocritical act on my part, I held the same posture for many years after moving to Queens and, ultimately, to Long Island. There was a time when I could easily be confused with Chuck in terms of attitude. No, this is not to say that I ever overtly hated black folks. I never did. But I used the language of that hatred, which is just as bad.
I offer no apologies for my behavior. That would be disingenuous. But as a white Puerto Rican living in Queens, I needed to make some immediate choices on this point because to identify oneself as a non-white in a white neighborhood in Queens in the 1980s was to ask for a serious ass kicking. Such was the strained state of relations back then.
Indeed, many of the Italian and Irish that I befriended in my teen years were the children of “white-flighters” who left the urban areas of Manhattan, The Bronx, and Brooklyn in the 1950s and 60s to escape the Puerto Ricans and Blacks who were migrating to northern urban centers in droves. The irony of many of the “white-flighters” who left the inner-city for greener pastures were themselves the children of immigrants who were seen as the “blighters” of their day.
I digress. Being white-skinned with straight hair allowed me to fit in nicely with the Irish and Italians of Queens who I resembled. Eventually, the people with whom I became close friends didn’t care that I was Puerto Rican. I dressed like them, liked their music, and used their lingo, even the racial ones. The cultural camouflage suited me quite well.
In fact, I’d say it suited me a bit too well because over the years of wearing this “suit” I literally became someone whom I now despise. Back then, I would have never challenged a statement like the one Chuck made as I did the other day. I never challenged these attitudes because I was afraid to. Go ahead. Call me a coward. I deserve it.
But people change and over time. I think I have. These days I’m more apt to challenge those views, particularly when it involves my own cultural heritage. At the core of this courage is that we are all human beings and that culture and language and understanding stand upon the base of our humanity and not the other way around. These days, when I encounter such attitudes, I try to use reason and logic to open a line of discussion with the person holding such views because again, what would be the point in making an accusation except to incite belligerent action? Truth be told the percentage of assholes and dickheads in the world is a constant rate across all races, genders and countries. I’m not sure what that percentage is, but I believe that by and large people in this world are intrinsically decent and good. It’s kind of like that 80/20 rule where 80 percent of all races are decent, hardworking, loving human beings have to suffer the idiocy of the 20 percent of their group who claim to be their representatives.
Moreover, I’ve come to the understanding that racism is not a genetic trait, but a learned behavior. Put in that context, it can be “unlearned” and I feel that the best way to do that is by appealing to one’s reason and sense of goodness. In the case of Chuck, I still think he’s a good guy, and were it not for his comment, you would, too. How many men do you know would call a friend from out of the blue, just to say hello and see how one is doing? This is not a common nicety that men possess – cavemen that we are. Chuck just needed an attitude adjustment and as his friend, I gave it.
Before I close I’d like to give a hat-tip to the Cunning Runt over at Little Bang Theory for validating this experience. A while ago he posted a similar experience he had with a co-worker in which he was able to “flip” his attitude about immigrants. You can read about it here http://littlebangtheory.wordpress.com/2007/10/26/bridges/. Chuck hasn’t called me since our “incident”, so I can’t say that my attempt was successful. But for once, I was able to shed my Queens and let my Manhattan shine through and do the right thing.
Wednesday, November 28, 2007
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Nice going, bro. You have definitely opened up Aunt Dora's Box here (my favorite pun). This should make for lively commentary. My greatest hope would be for some Right-Wing White Americans or their Italian-and-Irish-American NYC deputies to weigh in, so we could really talk turkey, but that has zero chance of happening. Despite the post's theme, I'm going to paint with a very broad brush: those people do not like to talk turkey.
Ethnicity is crazily important to discuss, though. It permeates every political and economic issue, the big one for this campaign season being "immigration reform." This, of course, is polite code for LATIN immigration "reform." And, somehow, the issue in the USA is bounded by two equally repulsive parameters: labor exploitation (the "liberal" Bush/McCain point of view) and know-nothingism (the "conservative" Tancredo/Romney/Giuliani/Biden point of view).
It behooves Americans to find some other, more inclusive, more welcoming alternative. Like, REALLY. You see, I have my own cultural camouflage in Panama. I'm small, darkly-complected and speak unaccented Spanish -- I vaguely resemble Spartacus, actually. Unless I let on, nobody would have a clue I'm American. Most people assume I'm either Jewish or Muslim and come from Argentina, Chile, Italy, Spain, France or the Middle-East. So, I see how AMERICANS (immigrants, tourists, businesspeople, military) are perceived by Latin Americans. It is not a pretty picture. Before Lou Dobbs gets into the presidential race and really pours gasoline on the fire, I owe the 411 to everyone. When I do let on that I'm American invariably someone will ask me why Americans are "asquerosos" (nauseating!). That's right. "NAUSEATING". Hard as this will be for most Americans to believe, Latins think Americans are stupid, unworldly, brutish, and shitty at business. In short, millions of people who are dark-skinned (and light-skinned) and speak Spanish think they are BETTER than and far "ABOVE" your average American. And, yes, Jews, Arabs, Blacks and Latin-Americans get a pass on this for all sorts of reasons too complicated to explain.
Just like Spartacus in this post, sometimes I try in vain to explain that "Chuck" is actually a good guy. Most of the time, I just go with the flow and dump on Americans right along with the locals, because I disagree with most of what the US government is about these days, because a lot of what folks down here say is true, and because -- coming from an immigrant family myself -- I don't 100% think of myself as American. Jewish, New Yorker and Met fan before American to be sure.
I am not particularly proud of myself when I do this, but gee whiz...try to see it from an outsider's point of view. Is there anything NOT nauseating about McCain or Giuliani?
Spartacus really presents an open-ended topic here. I'd love to ramble on. I'll close it out here by saying that while White Americans discuss Latin immigrants like they are not even there listening, you can bet your ass that the most unfortunate dude at the day-labor pick-up site has the same viewpoint about Americans that the most aristocratic Panamanian or Colombian does. ASQUEROSOS. ESTUPIDOS. MALEDUCADOS. HIJOSPUTA. GROSEROS. This is the wake-up call before Lou Dobbs blows the shit all to hell. Ignore it at your own cost.
Thanks for the guest post, which was very thought provoking. Half of my roots are from Brooklyn, so I can relate to Spartacus' experiences. I've always felt that the key to getting along with people is to see them as individuals and not as members of some bloc. Also, people should make it a point to deal with individuals that vary from them in religion, race, politics, sexual preferences, and age.
I'm straight, but my life is enriched by my friendship with some super cool gays and lesbians who've been kind enough to be friends with me.
I'm white, but I've had some good friends of other races who've enlightened me and erased stereotypes.
I'm a guy, but I've always enjoyed having female friends. I've done step aerobics for many years and have built up some really good friendships that way. It's been amazing to find out how women perceive the world so differently from the way I do.
Sorry about being carried away here, but thanks for stimulating me.
HM:
I cop to not being the most enlightened guy in the whole world. I do think in terms of groups and subsets when I think politically. Gee whiz, so did Marx. That doesn't make me more or less evolved. One of the things I've learned living in a more color-blind society down here is that in such a society there's nothing wrong with using group short-hand because it's DESCRIPTIVE not NORMATIVE. The US is just very pathological on this subject. That's not my problem.
What you are describing about yourself is admirable in American terms but as a practical matter, it's only Step 1. Step 0 really.
Obviously, people who share common interests or enjoy each others' company form bonds that transcend groups. It's horrific that such a normal way of life is considered "special" in some way in the States, other than in the big cities and college towns.
I haven't the faintest idea of what it's like in the US outside of such places. I'm guessing that it's pretty homogeneous but that's just a guess. If I'm right then the straight White, gentile man is doing himself no favor by shutting himself off from friendships with gay folks and straight women. That may be the only "variation" available. But what the fuck do I know? I'm totally ignorant as to what's happening there. Besides, doing Mr. Charlie favors is not exactly what I'm about.
You DO earn points with me, however, for contributing over the other spot. Takes big balls. That is most definitely NOT the shallow end of the pool.
Kelso-Again, thanks for the opportunity to guest blog. This was a really difficult post to write because I've often struggled with group identities as a teenager and a young adult. It has alot to do with my own insecurities about wanting and needing acceptance in those groups with which I identify.
Many of the kids I grew up with living in Manhattan, I knew from the time I started grade school, and some earlier than that. When I moved to Queens, the kids I ran with viewed me as an interloper and to gain acceptance, I needed to "do as the Romans do" so to speak; go along to get along. I needed that as a teenager and younger adult.
Not so much now that I am a 44-year old fart. I've got a family and a tight group of friends who like me for me, and anyone else who doesn't get that, can go fuck themselves.
HM-I hope what I've written above adds a little more perspective to the post I wrote. Clearly, you get where I'm coming from, but as Kelso stated in his first comment, there are still quite a few ASQUEROSOS who don't want to hear it. Again, I say fuck 'em. Peace.
Spartacus:
Please. Any time. This space is yours. I'm too busy right now to do it every day the way I had been. I did come down here to work, after all. But I want to keep the blog fresh and lively. Thanks for doing it.
Aside from your post's instrumental value to my blog, it touched me in a certain way because I've never been under pressure to conform. At least I've never felt under that pressure. Part of it, I suppose, is personality. I am very competitive, so I always took new environments as a challenge and led with my chin. For example, when I went to prep school, it was a great culture shock. Everything on the Upper East Side was different and it wasn't any fucking fun being in a handful of three or four of the "poor kids" --my parents both had great jobs, who knew?
But I couldn't WILL them into being multi-millionaires so instead of feeling inferior I chose to feel superior. I'd do all kinds of retarded stuff like these kids all had ski jackets with ski lift tickets on the zipper-pull, right? What the fuck did I know about skiing? I was scared to death of it then and I still wouldn't do it on a bet. So, to bust balls I got a jacket like that at Paragon and I clipped a CO-OP Supermarket delivery ticket onto the zipper-pull.
I called attention to being the poorest rather than being ashamed of it. I really had no choice. The kids from Harlem were miserable there. I didn't want that experience. I wanted to enjoy myself. And what do you know? My shit worked like crazy. The part about friends not coming down to Chelsea to hang out wasn't the most life-affirming experience I've ever had but I never suffered for being myself.
The only other time it was weird was when I was first in the investment world and my politics were at odds with those of a lot of friends and friendly rivals. I never hid what I believed, I called attention to it. At company presentations sometimes other investors would complain about the company's human resource policies being too generous with regard to day-care and that sort of thing (this was Eastern Europe and a communist legacy was very much there). That kind of talk pissed me off so I'd say something privately like "that has to be the stupidest shit I've ever heard of in my life; take a fucking look at the balance sheet and see what a trivial cost the day-care is...worry about big shit like revenues and taxes and the volatility of the market price of what they sell...or don't... fuck you. Be a dick." In public, I'd express the same sentiment but I'd do it without the foul language. I'd find some clever and sarcastic way to do it that would get the whole audience to laugh with me at the dude even though their politics mirrored the other guy's more than mine.
I got kind of a reputation as a fun guy to have at conferences because I loved stuff like that and could always be counted on to speak my mind.
There's a theme here, obviously, going back to what I wrote in my first comment. Now, of course, I'm going to write....I'M NOT PARTICULARLY PROUD OF THAT BEHAVIOR, BUT....
In a way, I envy you and respect for having had the experience of "conforming" against your better judgment and then getting past it. That takes a kind of courage and flexibility that I don't have. I pretty much have one gear.
We find this particularly refreshing considering the number of MALEDUCADOS that are encountered in sifting through the news of Terra each day. We feel the city of Detroit is a classic "code word" being used now by those that would wish to blame blight on one group or another. As if the poor management of GM, Chrysler and Ford had nothing to do with it or the bloated overhead in the production of steel in the USA had nothing to do with the creation of a rust belt from gary to Erie.
Your early cowardice is balanced on the Scales of Time by your vehemence in doing what is right.
Qu'ul cuda praedex nihil!
Apparently, I haven't done nearly enough. Everything's come unstuck. Bush is a hero again. Clinton's losing to all the Republicans. I missed a week of news but I KNOW she didn't do anything wrong. Obama is doing his usual number but he's just a clown so that's just an annoyance and will probably let me get more down with Clinton for DemNom laying less than -300.
I guess what's bugging me about Obama is that he's doing the same shit he's been doing all along and for the 10,000,000th time, liberals are "surprised". What's the big surprise? He's made no secret about what he is. He began his ridiculous campaign with that toilet-paper book, showing up Tom Harkin at Harkin's own BBQ, and praising Bush at every turn. What's so newsworthy about his praising Bush's remarkable peacemaking skills now? What was so newsworthy about his arrant homophobia on display last month?
Oh yean. The Iraq war is now a rip-roaring success. Super.
Great thoughts, Sparticus. It really is a "sea change," calling people on their attitudes, especially ones we can relate to / have at any time held, isn't it?
But it must be done. We The People includes all of us, and if we stand together we can TAKE THIS COUNTRY BACK.
As a splintered peoples, we're fucked.
I grew up in a home where my father would spout the most hideous thoughts about African Americans. He based his prejudice on what he claimed to see at work.
His perception was a direct reflection of what conventional wisdom attributed to the stereotype of African Americans.
One day I used his favorite slur word. He had many. My mother blew her stack and explained to me that it was not acceptable. I couldn't understand why it was okay for my dad to say what he did, but it wasn't okay for us to reflect it.
This is going to sound crazy, but watching Roots with my mother changed everything. She told us how we had an African American ancestor who "passed" as white. She told us that our dad never knew and she expected us to keep it to ourselves, especially around my grandparents.
After that, I started to question my dad on his racist views. We had many a nasty exchange over them. Finally, I told him that he was not to use those words or express those ideas in front of my children.
To this day, he has not. And my kids? They don't see skiin color the way I did, the way my father did, etc.....
I wish everybody could see what life is like in a relatively color-blind society, not one without prejudice because no such society exists, but a COLOR-BLIND one.
What happens is that every right-thinking American's fantasy of what it's like -- you have your friends, acquaintances, strangers and enemies based upon your experience with them, common interests, hobbies, business, intimate relationships and conflicts -- is just what it's like.
Skin becomes organic wallpaper, nothing more or less.
And that's in my American immigrant's experience. It's hard-wired in the local population. It's really hard for me to make clear enough just how much stress this takes off a society. I find myself kind of choked-up reading some of the comments here. What a weird thing about the USA that this pathology exists!
OK. I'll try to use some figurative language to express what's missing up there. Imagine if the "woo-woo-liberal-why-cant-we-all-just-get-along?" viewpoint was shared by the most avarious bankers and business people and by the all the men in the construction trades. Then imagine that a third of THOSE men had COMPLEXIONS darker than yours no matter if you are a "black" American or a "white" one. Now imagine that the viewpoint wasn't even a "viewpoint" at all but rather completely reflexive.
Now, imagine this. Let's say I was hanging out with my friends here and I expressed aloud the perfectly lovely sentiments we've all expressed here. They would think, knowing me, that I was making an elaborate joke because to express such sentiments earnestly here would be beyond retarded.
I know that "No_slappz" is waiting in the tall weeds for me because he seems to know more about my country and my friends than I do, so, Son: MANDALO O BOTA LA FILOSIFIA SUYA, PUE'!!!!!!!!
i have been so busy do the corporate garbage all week i could really do careful reads..
but this was great......
it reminds me of what my grandfather used to say about "coloreds" and "schvartzes" -- but that is a whole blog
kelso -- if you want me as a guest blogger i would love to sometime
DCAPnyc: I lost your email address. But please feel free to guest blog any time you like
kelso
nyz5678@gmail.com
let me know when
What an awesome conversation.
Spartacus- great debut; one of the most relevant pieces I have read in a while.
I attend unlearning racism conferences all the time( three years) I have been on at least forty panels. Most people feign ignorance when the very existence of racism is brought up.
Just imagine if your old friend, chuck, is in charge of hiring at his company. Or wears a badge. He has beliefs about people and 'looks' for evidence to back up that belief so if he sees a black person behaving ignorantly....I told you so.
I am glad you confronted it head on logically
Pain - Thanks for the props. I hear you on the code words. There are certain areas of this country -- and I'll cite West Virginia -- where our racial associations with place casts a pall, ignoring the usual root cause, which is economic mismanagement and corporate greed.
CR - You need to know that your "incident" is what inspired and guided this post and the conversation I had with Chuck. I honestly feel that without the experience of reading your post, I probably would have letter the matter go. I'm not sure if I can ever repay that debt of gratitude. Thanks for schooling me on this one.
DCup - Could it be that our children are forging a uniquely American culture that will emerge and mature long after we have expired? When you consider the rise in inter-cultural marriages (I hate the term inter-racial, because we are really all one race) and when the offspring those unions in overtaking that of pure cultural unions, do we continue to identify them as mixed culture or simply Americans. In my case, my Irish-Puerto Rican spawn identify as Americans first with both an Irish and Puerto Rican heritage; both of which they are equally proud,
Kelso - I so wish I can go back to Manhattan 1977 when my relationships with friends really was color blind. Compared to vitriol I hear now in "bucolic" Lindenhurst, it makes the East Village of Manhattan of that era a nirvana.
DCap - Thanks for the props. I hope that you'll take up the mantle of guest posting here, too. It would be great to share this forum with you.
Dave - I know lots of people who fit into the profile you described. They're not overt racists and more often than not they interact well with people of color. But having worn the white camouflage and heard what was said behind closed doors, I can tell you that were still several generations away from diminishing the insidious and covert racism that exists. As I allude to in my response to DCup, the solution may be in inter-cultural marriage and procreation.
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