THINGS ARE GETTING SO ROTTEN FOR YOU UP THERE, IT'S TIME TO ASK "WHO'S THE NARC?"
I started thinking about this tonight when in a joking manner a fellow blogger asked me about drugs after. It's on yesterday's post but here it is in plain text:
fairlane said...
I just want to know one thing.
Where do you get your drugs?
And can you hook a brother up?
I guess that's two things.
11/14/2007 1:05 AM
KELSO'S NUTS said...
"Federales, Federales.../bring my baby back to me..." -- Joe "KIng" Carrasco.
Fuck you very much.
You on the watch list now, son. Tell your "handler". I don't do drugs and I certainly don't sell them.
11/14/2007 1:32 AM
KELSO'S NUTS said...
I told you already, the obvious shit don't work. A Fed sat down at the Veneto and didn't play a single hand while wearing an Oxford-blue button-down and khakis with a razor-sharp crease.
You guys gots to get more creative.
My affairs are in order. Search elsewhere. Atty (212) 809-4500.
Your move.
11/14/2007 1:38 AM
KELSO'S NUTS said...
I don't really think you're a Fed Fairlane. Feds don't have your writing ability and definitly don't have you no-holds-barred style. But I'm stil not answering that question.
Ask one of your erstwhile clients. They'll be able to sort you out. That is if your "counselling" wasn't an elaborate undercover.
Following the fantasy, though, if you are Fed you are so barking up the wrong tree. I have as much to do with drugs as Curt Schilling does.
11/14/2007 2:34 AM
I'll stand by what I wrote. Neither Fairlane nor any member of Jonestown is likely to be a Fed. Or an informant. But with all of the emails and IM's and texts that the government already controls, wouln't they need lots of extra help getting throogh it all. What's so strange about the idea of a well-to-do Kentuckian who lived down the street form Senator Mitch McConnell who's also a prprietor of a left-wing blog looking amongst his or her blog buddies to get one or more to incriminate his or her self over the telegrahp wire? Over a small thing, but with water-boading and cigarette butts put out in one's flesh who wouldn't tell them they are right and an unfrozen Martin Van Buren was advising Chavez?
It was either a very lame joke -- what had I written that was so absurd, requiring such a strange comment? -- referring to an earlier comment or else a very inexperienced Fed going after me, a very law adibing citizen. Either way, it reflected poorly on Fairlane. I think he's not rat nor is he a narc. Neverthelss, he does fit the profile -- White, Wealthy, Southern Male, with some streed cred either real or very-well taught. That's an ideal crecuit for both FBI and CIA and probably Homeland Sceurity, too.
What might have been the point of targeting me, though? Drugs are hardly a big part of my life and I don't sell them. But maybe it would be the NYPD Blue or Law & Order cop thing. Get me to incriminate myself on something really small, and then do the whole TV number about how white guys get treated in prison yaya yada but if I wanted to spare myslef from all that, I could just become a Confidential Informant, and so on....Stranger things, you know?
We'll let it all go for now, but it probably pays to be vigilant. There are far too many executive orders extant and the PATRIOT ACT is pretty broad.
The likelihood that someone you know in the blogosphere is G is very strong indeed.
Be careful out there.
Kelso's Nuts love you
9 comments:
Kelso- You have set the web on fire
kelso, this is a fascinating case. It caught my interest when I first read about it six months ago. But without comments from someone who knows the territory, there's no insights to be gained.
You know anything about it?
Brutal Murder Of Staten Island Woman Rocks Panama
Investigators Have Suspects, But Are Short On Motive
by Brendan Keefe
STATEN ISLAND (CBS) ― Toni Grossi-Abrams spent much of her time at her Staten Island apartment, but she spent much of her money in Panama. Why would someone want to kill an affluent American woman in Central America? That's the question Panamanian police are desperately trying to answer.
Grossi-Abrams' badly burned body was recently found near a Panama City soccer field. Panamanian investigators believe she was killed in her own apartment and then rolled out of the building in a suitcase. Investigators also believe the killers set fire to her body to conceal the crime.
"I want to thank the authorities down here in Panama," Seth Redlich, Grossi-Abrams' cousin, told CBS 2 in a phone interview. "I have to say they're doing an amazing job in investigating this crime, this horrible crime, and I'm very confident they'll bring people involved to justice."
The victim is listed as a trustee and a sponsor of the Staten Island Museum. A wealthy and prominent member of the community, Grossi-Abrams believed in Staten Island and she believed in Panama. While investing in Panama's future, her life was taken.
"She was an absolutely amazing woman, who put her community first," Redlich said. "I know on Staten Island she was very active in the community and very busy. She was fun, and just a great person with an amazing heart, and I'm sure everyone who knows her will remember her that way and have an amazing story about her."
Grossi-Abrams was clearly murdered, but why?
Did the killers know their target was a wealthy American widow? And if so, were they after her money?
Panamanian police had three suspects in custody Thursday night, two Panamanians and an American woman who was renting an apartment owned by the victim. Police are also looking for three possible suspects from Colombia, but the motive for the murder remains a mystery.
no_slappz:
This is the first I've heard of this story. I never heard any gossip about it nor did I read about it in the paper nor did I see it on local news. I am acually very much the WRONG person to ask about malfeasance in Panama. Especially involving Americans.
I have almost no American acquaintances here. And my world is pretty much confined to poker and night-clubbing and my own work. I'm sorry in advance if this is offensive but it has to do with culture. What makes things pleasurable and easy for me here -- Speaking fluent unaccented Spanish and the language of gambling and finance and being small and darkly-complected -- makes me no one any Americans really want anything to do with. And I find myself, rightly or wrongly, recoiling when I heard the discordant sound of an American trying to speak Spanish. If someone is nice and needs help, I am usually willing to offer it, but the Ugly American archetype still holds true largely.
There is also way less gossip here as a matter of culture and it is considered very bad form to ask a lot of questions about matters that don't concern you. There are a million ways to get in a lot of trouble if you're looking for it. The best way to stay out of trouble is not to do anything wrong.
Sorry, no_slappz. No_scoop.
DAVE:
Not my intention. I have sort of bought into the culture down here and there are very specific lines. You never speak directly about anything personal like that with anyone who you haven't hung out with for hours upon hours before. A ring of privacy is presumed. I know it was a joke to mean "you're crazy; what are you on?" in response to something outrageous I said or wrote, but it's not something people ask or say to relative strangers down here.
It did, however, get me thinking about something I had been really loathe to confront, i.e., how free is open political discourse really?
I apologize sincerely if my words hurt. It was just verbal sparring.
kelso, the following is coverage of the murder by a Panamanian online news service.
American woman's murder prompts morbid frenzy
by Eric Jackson
Imagine the horrific massacre at Virginia Tech as a cause for relief. As sick as that might sound, such was the case in Panama.
For days prior to a disturbed young man's rampage across and American campus, Fox News was endlessly repeating, occasionally with extra added details, the story about the murder in Panama City of American real estate investor Toni Grossi-Abrams, who came here from the New York borough of Staten Island.
A lightweight in the Big Apple's newspaper wars, the Staten Island Advance, was similarly bidding to gain ground with daily headlines about Grossi-Abrams, who was stabbed to death in her Via Veneto apartment, dismembered and stuffed into a suitcase, then incinerated for several hours on a field in Rio Abajo that's ordinarily used by boys in that West Indian section of town for pick-up soccer games.
Kids found the charred remains the next day while on their way to school. Meanwhile, that same morning a carpenter came to Grossi-Abrams's apartment and found it covered in blood.
Held on suspicion of murder was another American woman, Debra Ann Ridgley, who was seen with Grossi-Abrams at Expat Socials in Panama City and was a tenant of the dead woman. Ridgley was questioned by police abotu Grossi-Abrams's disappearance and detained it was noticed that she had a serious cut on her hand and apparent blood under her fingernails. Police are also looking for two Colombian men.
Because the victim was American, and because she had been involved in a high-stakes lawsuit against a cousin of former presidential candidate and Foreign Minister José Miguel Alemán (among several other business disputes arising from her real estate dealings), and because of the gruesome way in which the body was disposed, and because the suspect in custody was also an American woman, sensationalist media in both the United States and Panama latched onto the case.
Police and prosecutors on the one hand, and defense lawyers on the other, kept up a steady stream of pronouncements about the case to feed the headlines. People in the community down here contacted The Panama News with details about Ridgley and Grossi-Abrams. Others fed information, some of it wild speculation about cocaine-crazed killers or Colombian hit men, some of it inaccurate and racist stereotypes about the nature of Rio Abajo, to US-based media.
One local copyright pirate copied every news story about the case that he could find on Google onto his commercial website, called it a "scoop" and had his shills go on the various Panama-related email discussion groups to berate The Panama News for not providing equivalent "coverage."
The local slant on events has also been affected by business interests. Surely all the stories on Fox News will slow down some American retirees' interest in Panama as a place to live. Surely the fact that Ridgley and Grossi-Adams were introduced by International Living, the most prominent of the businesses promoting Panama not only as a place to retire but as a place to get rich by real estate speculation, is going to affect the credibility of that organization. And while Rio Abajo has been savaged in the US press, the increasingly chaotic nature of Via Veneto, a tourist drag where street prostitution and petty crime have become defining characteristics in recent times, has hardly been mentioned.
Caught up in the hue and cry, some members of the local American community have begun to take sides, mostly against Ridgley because of her reputation for a hedonistic lifestyle and associations with the fugitive Colombian suspects. Grossi-Abrams, however, has also been said by various sources --- locals who have contacted The Panama News and others here and in the United States who have talked to US media --- to have had a violent temper, a litigious public record and a habit of sharp-edged business dealings.
By several disputed accounts the conflict that ended in Grossi-Abrams's death began with an accusation that Ridgley had broken into her landlady's apartment and escalated with an attempted extrajudicial eviction that set off a violent argument.
Those, however, are all circumstances that relate more to context than ultimate culpability. There are conflicting claims about who killed Grossi-Adams and why, and The Panama News will not attempt to "solve" this crime, allegations about which may go before a jury of government employees or may be heard by a judge under Panama's criminal procedures. Conviction for murder in this case would mean a possible maximum 20-year prison sentence.
Interesting stuff, but as I've told you, I don't hang around with ex-pats. And I certainly don't get involved in stuff that isn't my business.
No one I know has ever mentioned this thing to me and I've never been asked to take a "side."
The names are all unfamiliar and I don't watch Fox News.
I've seen Jackson's work before. My impression is that he's something of a Right-Winger and anti-pan-Latinist. Likes to write pseudo-muckraking stuff about casinos and the PRD and that sort of thing to make the power elite in the capital look bad. He has his agenda. But I stay out of all fo that.
Paranoid? Absolutely.
FAIRLANE: I like you. I respect you I really do and for that reason I would like to end this feud amicably. "Over-the-top" is in the eye of the beholder. You, yourself, pride yourself on your willingness to say "anything" without fear or favor. I did not accuse you of being a narc. I merely pointed out that your particular phraselogy of that joke was too direct for my tastes and I subsequently elaborated why it was a cultural misunderstanding. I do not think you are a narc at all. I think it was merely a joke whose words rang strange bells. In fact, there was a Bill Maher show during the Rev. Ted Haggard dust-up in which Maher quite rightly took Haggard to task for alluding directly to crystal in his phone message when as Maher noted "everyone says on the phone 'that thing' or whatever...I guess shows how stupid Republicans are!"
For the record, I DID NOT attack JWN. I have been a supporter of his from the beginning. I was, again, offended by the discourtesy of being ATTACKED FOR MY AGREEMENT WITH HIM AND MY WILLINGNESS TO SUPPORT A LOT OF HIS IDEOLOGY FROM A LEFT-WING PERSPECTIVE. I have no idea why he took offense at that. I guess because I wrote a lot of words. Or whatever. I did have what I felt was a legitmate argument with him over voucher. I made my point forcefully, but I don't believe I was offensive in any way. If his feelings are hurt or yours are hurt, please accept my apology.
As for Dave, is it NOT clear that he and I have arrived at an understanding and rapproachment? We had a little verbal jousting over the telegraph wire, but that's in the past. Neither of us got the best of the other and for a while our exchanges have been quite friendly.
If you think I act like a fucking cop, all I can say is "thank you." It means I haven't lost all connection with well-organzied society, but I think that what you mistake for "cop" is merely my familiarity with the Code which most MBAs learn when we study Michael Porter's "5 Forces Model Of The Firm."
Once again, I don't want to get into a pissing match with you. Even if you don't like me, I like you. I believe you write well, have a strong point of view, a clear sense of the limits of "politically correct" language and so on. You are great at what you do.
Once again, I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings. I didn't mean to. But I would never even in jest ask you to send me say a case of unstamped Basil Hayden. Do you see my point?
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