My nuts are very scalded right now, because of bullshit and because I have to get into the thing I hate most which is identity politics.
I watched the Myrtle, SC, debate for the third time and am now thoroughly convinced that Clinton got the best of Obama in the so-called "schoolyard spat" or whatever. When HRC was on the board of Wal-Mart, Sam Walton was alive and, no, it was not a gem of perfect holistic human relations policy, nor was it a gentle competitor, but it was not the Wal-Mart of today. Moreover, HRC did not deny that she sat on its board. Why should she deny it? It's the truth. Why should she have not sat on its board? It was the biggest company in Arkansas and she was a corporate lawyer with trajectory. I'm not turning that down. Are you?
Barack Obama did work for a slumlord and did collect campaign contributions from him. When the man was indicted for offenses unrelated to Obama, the latter quite sensibly returned the contributions. What was so hard about saying that? Or saying nothing at all? Instead he throws off this jive about joint ventures with a church (oooh!) and a mumbled responsed very much like Bush's when asked about Ken Lay's contributions, you remember: "Ken Lay? Don't know him. I think he supported Ann Richards against me." I listened to that Nevada editorial board interview over and over again and at no point did Obama take Reagan to task for getting poor people to vote against their best interests. Or did he mean that his "transformative" politics would be to get the rich to vote against their own interests. Right! That was an outright lie he told on stage. Son, you got caught pandering. Best to get it past you and move on. You cannot make this work for you. I take that back. It'll work if you do what you're itching to do right now which is leave the Democratic Party.
Finally, I think Senator Clinton was well within her rights to have been super-ironic and riff on Obama's hero Ronald Reagan and say to Obama: "Wellllll, there you go ag-AIN!" Because that's just what he always does when challenged. He evades. No, that's what Bill Clinton used to do. What Obama does is worse. He denies everything and hides behind the figleaf of "getting past the tired old politics of yesteryear and all the divisiveness." We started to examine what the tired old politics of yesteryear were. The Voting Rights Act, for starters. And, no, Barack Obama you are not Martin Luther King, Jr. Sorry.
I have no idea what Obama's "community organizing" consisted of but I highly doubt he was in any "streets." Get off that narrative, everybody, please. He's an artistocratic guy. His father was a wealthy diplomat. His mother's a blue-blood. There's nothing wrong with that at all -- I felt terrible the way, for example, two wealthy, educated brown-skinned baseball stars, Barry Bonds and Bobby Bonilla, were slammed both for being "thugs" and for being too "haughty" or whatever because they didn't speak ghetto -- but whatever Barack Obama was doing "in the streets" was a social experiment, not anything based on need. No way.
But that's just another look back. What's scalding my nuts is how free everyone is with the word "bitch" with regard to Senator Clinton. What's the matter with Kansas? Christ, what's the matter with whole stinking country. And we're not even talking about the most criminal sadistic administration in the nation's history. We're talking about Democrats. I think I have a completely distorted view of this living in the part of the world I do. There are four principal economic players down here: Argentina, Brazil, Chile, and Panama. The president of Argentina is Cristina Fernandez-Kirchner. The president of Chile is Michelle Bachillet. The previous president of Panama was Mireya Moscoso and the next one will likely be Balbina Herrera. I've traveled in all sorts of circles here, yes, even on the "streets" of San Miguelito as part of my fucking social experiment. No, I was joking. I have friends in politics there. But, aside from an understandable Clinton worship here, which there's no getting around because Bill Clinton is singularly responsible for allowing Panama to bring itself into the first world, no one, not business leaders, not ward-heelers, not gamblers, not club owners, not fucking strip club owners use the words "zorra" or "perra" or "bruja" to describe any of these female political leaders whether they agree with the politics or not. And this is a country that loves to curse. It's huevo-puta this, chucha-madre that, leche the other, verga the other's brother. Yet, Maureen Dowd and Camille Paglia and John "Walnuts" McCain have probably made $10s of millions calling Clinton a "bitch." And nobody gives a shit. That's real nice.
Try to say you think Obama looks like a nervous nigger robbing a bank in every one of these debates. Just try it. It's ugly and vulgar but no more so than calling Clinton a "bitch" is. Try saying that about him. Not as a politician. Not at your own jobs. Just among your own friends and see what happens. They'll think you've lost your mind and maybe rightfully so.
Now, imagine -- if you can -- a part of the world I know you all think you're superior to. Cocaine. Rain forests. Revolutionaries. Guerrillas. Fascists. Communists. Peasants. Strikes. Poverty. Corruption. Can't speak English, what's wrong with them? The ignorant Latin machismo. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Bullshit. Call Balbina Herrera a "perra" here. Please. Just try it. Try it among your "friends." It's OK everybody does it in America. And America's the greatest country on Earth. Please try it and see what happens. Try it for my sake. No more friends, no more teeth.
Hey listen, try calling my attorney that. She's considering a National Assembly run from the district adjecent to San Miguelito. And -- oooh! -- she's a trial lawyer. And a defense lawyer. And will only prosecute violent criminals as her part of the QC system they have here. She doesn't believe in harsh punishment for non-violent crime. And she's very tough. Takes absolutely no shit from anyone. So, come on down and call her that awful name. In my presence. Please. I don't get to act like an 11-year old too often. I'd love to have a god's honest brawl with an American.
Think about it. You're going to have to think about it because whether it's HRC or Obama against Walnuts or Rudy it's going to be "bitch" or "nigger" and the press is going to be with Walnuts or Rudy, not Obama anymore. And if it's Edwards you might hear "communist" or "nigger-lover." Fucking come together as Democrats. Not in the bullshit Obama empty-suit way nor the Nuke Iran Clinton way, nor the I-hate-queers-and-love-Jesus Edwards way, but as Democrats. And figure it out.
[nb: I'm not so stupid as to confuse the way Senator Clinton is casually called a "bitch" with -- say -- FAIRLANE's signature phrase "Drink up, Bitches!". I merely jealous that he thought of it because it's a cool signature phrase.]
You bet your teeth.
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Wednesday, January 23, 2008
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How do I know America is third rate nation when it has all the resources to really BE the greatest nation on the face of TERRA?
Because you don't have a syndicated column in at least 200 newspapers and an asshat like Bob Novak does.
No one in the Kountry Klub Klan media has enough huevos to call HRC a "cunt" which would be almost affectionate by gutter swerve standards of anything than Rupert Murdoch has taken a feeble prostate challenged piss on. Have I mentioned I loathe the man? Every time I think of him or see the FOX News logo I think "cancer." I know it's wrong but I'm just trying to be clear here.
Cavalor has trusted me with one heckuva job and he's not the sort of demon that takes disappointment very well. So I'm going to digest that beautiful buffet you just fed me my friend and when I'm done I'm going to drop trou and take a steamer all over anyone who thinks they are man enough to call HRC a bitch.
Deety loves Kelso's Nuts!
Deety:
I am honored with Domesday upon you down there you'd drop by to read and leave such lovely words.
It would have been a lonely job up there being a male feminist who still had a little Old Country in him but here, no problem. It's a world-turned-upside-down, no? [We're still allowed to quote the great left-wing philosophers of yesteryear down here, btb]. Latin America a feminist haven? An "instrumental and material" feminist haven, but a haven nonetheless. At least some of the old fashioned stuff is merely silly but coupled with good manners. And it's modern women leading the region with social democracy and capitalism toward a very bright future with a little nod toward Europe and a little nod toward the Middle East of Israel and Lebanon between the wars and one big look inside -- and the capitalism's for real -- Whod've thunk it?
And the men ain't too bad either. I love our guy, Martin Torrijos. There's a lot to be said for Lula. Correa (Ecuador) and Morales (Bolivia) are just finding their feet, but so far so good. Chavez is Chavez is Chavez. He's a fixture as long as oil's high and you take the bitter with the better with him. Perhaps, the coolest element of the USA's "loss" of Latin America is that two of the last holdouts of the old style, Uribe and Alan Garcia of Peru, have moved to the center in ways no one could have imagined. Uribe's gotten the attention, but he was always kind of center-right and was never the Negroponte-Abrams-North man Garcia was. Very, very scary guy back in the 80s. World Bank center-right today. Some progress, I suppose.
I don't think Garcia's going to be president of Peru much longer, though, which is why both Garcia and Bush are trying to get something done before this time next year. Torrijos is waiting for this time next year. He wants the pact to have HRC's signature next to his. And once again, he's played Bush like a bull fiddle. He's got the USA holding it up over some killing 16 years ago.
Been a roller-coaster ride for Uribe the last few weeks. But I sure liked how Gaviria looked on TV last week. We can hope.
How this turned into your Points South Report, I don't know. I know your getting the Kelso not Condoleeza Rice opinion, though.
But fuckin A Deety, I'm not joking about this "bitch" thing. I don't get it at all. And it's so far beyond the comprehension of people here that they aren't even aware of it. They'd think I was joking. Toughest dudes in the city had a party that went until 11 AM celebrating her win in NH.
Ser Tommy-Gun:
I imagine just by knowing who The Chief was gives you an understanding of Jewish English. "Cunt" is not a swear-word. It's just a word. And you are absolutely right that in a certain sense "cunt" is a more respectful thing to call a woman than "bitch" if you're of that mind. "Cunt" implies tacit power. "Bitch" implies tacit weakness covered up by bluster. It's much worse actually.
And yes, you understand very well that "cancer" is way worse a word in Jewish English than "cunt" is. All that tells me is that you are deadly SERIOUS and very angry when the subjects are Murdoch and Fox. "Cancer" and "Hitler" are curses that are reserved for people you truly despise with every ounce of your being. I've heard my Mom, for example, refer to certains colleagues of hers as "cunts" whom she quite likes.
Sorry I didn't get back to the other thread in time to get in a dialogue. I was very careful about what I wrote in my other comment. I've been a Hillary fan for quite a while, and have been going head to head with my wife, who prefers Obama.
So, I reported to you what she said about Hillary in the context of the last debate, and what I felt the outcome was.
Here's my wife's further explanation: Hillary's arrogance with a smile toward Obama in the last debate, when she picked apart all of his policies and his past, were demeaning to him. Bitchiness is an attitude of arrogance towards someone else, and it can only be used by a female.
Here's my further explanation: John Edwards tries to project himself as a common man with "The 28,200-square-foot home (is) also Orange County's most valuable." (Carolina Journal Online)
The reason that I reported what my wife said and felt is that she is a left-wing Democrat, with two Master's degrees, and a former teacher. She thinks that she is not unique feeling the way she does.
Okay, Kelso. This post is fucking awesome. And you are fucking awesome for writing it.
Kelso's awesomeness aside, I'm not in the mood to be nice or care about anyone's feelings. So I'm going to blunt. All I have to say to anyone who calls Sen. Clinton a "Bitch" for playing hardball or being arrogant or not being polite or being mean is... you try getting to where she is and see how you do it without being tough, without being confident, without having the guts to criticize others when they need to be criticized. I've been an HR/Finance manager for about 6 years. In both HR and in Finance, you have to make a lot of tough decisions and break a lot of hard news to people. Sure you have to be diplomatic. But you also have to be honest and you have to be tough. I'm currently a director at a nonprofit with an all-female staff. The biggest problem I see is that many of the managers don't want to do performance evaluations of their employees because they are afraid to hurt their feelings or be disliked by them if they have to give negative criticism. I've had to do several trainings to combat this problem. Fuck being nice. Fuck being liked. Nobody benefits from that when we end up having to fire a bad employee who was never told that they had performance issues in the first place. I can't even count the number of times I've heard someone say, "I don't want people to think I'm a bitch." For what!? Doing your fucking job!?
So what was my point? Oh yeah... HILARY CLINTON IS DOING HER MOTHERFUCKING JOB. She's competing for office, just like the other candidates are. Is anybody calling Sen. Obama a dick for creating this "Truth Squad"nonsense and following Bill Clinton around? Because that seems like a pretty stupid-ass dick thing to do. And if people have decided that Sen. Clinton's LBJ/MLK comment was an underhanded racist attack on Sen. Obama, then those people better fucking decide that all this "truth" and "beneath the dignity of a former president" bullshit is just an underhanded way of bringing Lewinsky and "I did not have sexual relations with that woman" into Sen. Clinton's campaign.
And I really am sorry to be down on you HM, because I really like what you have to say in your comments around here, and I realize that you're sharing your wife's views. But "bitchiness is an attitude of arrogance towards someone else, and it can only be used by a female" is bullshit.
So, yeah... I guess maybe I'm a Bitch then. Because women are supposed to be polite and not be critical of others, only themselves. Well fuck that noise. I don't really give a fuck because I am SICK of this sexist shit.
Again, Kelso: you, your nuts, and this post are awesome.
Great post, Kelso. I agree - no one should be calling Hillary a bitch - as Suzi said, she's doing her job. And you are so right that the Democrats have to band together!
I like the tough jobs and there are none tougher in blogging than being an American man on the internet who defends and promotes HRC. I walk a lonely road here. But I'll have some converts. Wait and see.
this is an awesome post!!! consider yourself blogrolled!
liberality: thank you very much! i have returned the favor...well, it looks like i rang up a sale with mi hermano Spartacus...now, if he and i can't convince democratic american men that it's perfectly fine to vote for hrc for president, than i feel sorry for all american women because there is a glaring lack of masculinity up there in Big Sammy
MauiGirl: Thanks for the kind words. The sexism is not tolerable, least of all from fellow Democrats and since I seem to be one of the few American men who are seeing this clearly and I'm not afraid to discuss it, I have to go down to the felt with it. I'll convince a lot of folks that I'm right or I'll look like an idiot but at least I'll go down fighting.
What I want NOT to happen and so far it isn't is for HRC to let Obama push her into the trap Dominque Royal did in the most recent French elections. Royal was the "socialist (read democratic capitalist) party and ran against the eventual winner Sarkozy, the Gaullist and some other middle-of-the-road dude (the Obama figure). Royal had the same unloseable election that Clinton has AND she got an 80% turnout which means that every worker and many, many are in unions plus every immigrant who got legal French citizenship came out to vote. How could she lose? By running a timid campaign and letting both men walk all over her and she tried to be "nice" and "moderate" her views. Ideology is way more important over there but even thought not terribly much separates Clinton from Edwards or Obama or for that matter Romney, she's not given an inch. Long as Kucinich is in the race for the primary, he'll be keeping her on her toes.
SuziRiot: Having never had a job other than summers and vacations in high school and college, I don't know much about what office life is like. As part of getting my MBA in Westwood, however, I was compelled to take 1/4 of HR Mgt. I lucked out in getting a very cool professor who made it a lot of fun. And I got to captain the "labor" team in the mock strike which was fun. But I actually learned something in the class. It's not so much the losses that can fuck up an organizaiton. It's not having the key building blocks: your sales force and your HR policy. Once again, this is purely from an academic perspective but the studies seem to show that employees will tolerate even negative performance reviews if the policies are preceived to be transparent and fair. The best HR policy in the world of course applies to the sales force because their reviews and bonuses are based on objective measurements.
BTW, I never used the word "bitch" with Hillary. My wife is the one who has used the term. It's ironic that I should be mentioning that Spanish has a better way than English of dealing with the verb "to be". In Spanish, we can use "estar" or "ser". My wife would be using some form of the verb "estar" in her description if she said it in Spanish.
I'm not sure why members of the "thought police" think that they can prevent people from using normal English usage in communications. There seem to be a lot of people out there that are pissed off for the wrong reasons. Where were you in 2003, when my wife and I were in Spain, using "estar" and "ser", while your president invaded Iraq? If you showed the same degree of anger, good for you; otherwise, shame on you for your priorities.
HungryMother: Bueno pue'...segun tu esposa ella ESTABA de perra en el debate pero segun tu esposa la mujer de Clinton ES buena mas o menos, si o no? Mientras Obama ESTABA como un negron nervioso de robar un banco durante los debates per ES un politico normal, si o no? Ya ESTAMOS de acuerdo?
Still doesn't change the fact that neither "perra" nor "negron" are particularly nice as metaphors or similes. But you know I'm not a censor. I'm a free-speech absolutist. I believe everybody is free to say whatever they like and everybody who has something to say should be heard. That goes for Ghandi. That goes for Hitler. I'm going to LET everyone call her a "bitch" as much as they like. I'm just going to be blunt in my response.
I've lived in Spain three times. In Oviedo and Madrid twice, but I've travelled all over. We should swap entertaining stories, not argue. What was I DOING in 2003? I was living in Lower Manhattan. Self-employed investor. I voted for Bradley in the 2000 primary, Nader in the general election, btw. In 2004, I voted for Kucinich in the primary and Kerry in the general election.
I was opposed to not only the war, but also all versions of the PATRIOT ACT and the creation of THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY. I participated in most of the NYC protests. I won a fair amount of money betting on Bush to win the 2004 election and gave all the winnings to charity, splitting them in equal 1/3s to CODE PINK, GOLD STAR MOTHERS, and BLACKBOXVOTING.ORG.
I opposed the war from the beginning but I'm afraid the only proof I have is my blog archives which start in August of 2005.
That's me. If you were addressing AnitaXanaxNow, she'll have to answer you herself.
That's an interesting comparison. It's also interesting that other countries have had a female president or prime ministers...
I'm not a big fan of Hillary Clinton, but I really, really don't like the sexist attacks on her.
BATOCCHIO:
Welcome to Kelso's Nuts. I just visited your site and am very impressed. You really did a magnificent job on the Clinton-Obama conflict and provided more than enough info and link for everyone to make up his or her own mind.
I'll be back to be sure. I'm going to link you here.
HM: I'm not sure at whom your comment was directed, but I'll jump in anyway.
I shouldn't have called your wife's position bullshit, although I still very much disagree with her. I went too far, especially considering the tone of polite disagreement in your original comment on this thread. I apologize, which is something I've never done on my blog or in commenting on other blogs. It's just a sore point for me and I got worked up. I have no objection to the use of the word bitch. I'm not interested in "thought police" or political correctness. But I do think that calling Sen. Clinton a bitch in the context of her campaign style or tactics is sexist. It pisses me off and I need to vent, which is why I'm out here in blogland in the first place.
I don't know about anybody else, but in 2003 I was a very busy member of Riot Grrrl Los Angeles. I don't know if you're familiar with the riot grrrl movement, but it's very much about women, social justice, and anger. I organized war protest concerts, marched on the Federal Building in Westwood, did community organizing, all kinds of shit. While I wasn't protesting and helping women get safe abortions, I tried to pay my rent by doing financial management as my day job.
Kelso, I'm definitely not arguing with you or any of your readers, just trying to clarify what's happening here.
I am a big, big fan of Bill Bradley. One of the highlights of my sports spectating was seeing Bill in the NCAA Eastern Regionals at Maryland in 1965.
I agreed with most of his political positions and was saddened by his mistreatment by the voters and pundits. It's sad to see a great leaders fall by the wayside due to their virtues.
SuziRiot: It gladdens my heart to read that the riot grrrl movement was alive and kicking in LA as recently as 2003. I was living in NYC at the time, and as I described whatever vestiges of riot grrrl NY there were got totally co-opted by the fashion/entertainment thing. My impression is that of the actual NYC riot "grrrls" who remained they split up among the power protest blocs of NYC from time-immemorial: the labor/left-liberals, the African-Americans, and the Latin-Caribbeans.
What I loved about the riot grrrl movement in LA in the early 90s was, of course, the brilliant music, but also that the movement was completely sui generis and wasn't a pallid imitation of the hippies. It also had an urban edge and was feminist so it reminded me of the NYC grass-roots politics of my youth.
I also felt welcome there. It didn't matter that I was an MBA candidate in finance at UCLA at the time. That didn't make me "the man" not hardly. My first ex and I participated in a lot of pro-choice and anti-poverty and criminal justice reform stuff alongside riotgrrrls. We faced down Winona Ryder on that bullshit 3-strikes-and-you're-out, although to be fair, THEY WON! But feature that, an MBA candidate in finance is on the left side of that issue, and wannabe rebel Winona Ryder's down with Dan Lundgren!
NEVER JUDGE A BOOK BY ITS COVER.
HungryMother: Gee whiz, buddy. Isn't it clear by now that my site is an open space for discussion and argument WITH NO REPERCUSSIONS? It's all good. That's the point. If we're not allowed to piss each other off, but be good sports about it, what's the purpose of blogging? We argue our points of view vigourously but we all respect each other, si o no? I never want to LOSE a regular over one polemic. That's stupid. Your point is clear. I can't write on behalf of Anita nor SuziRiot but my objection was not with you nor with your wife but with the cultural ease that people employ the word "bitch" with regard to HRC. That doesn't mean I don't think you're a rad blogger and want to crush you. You are and I don't.
Listen, I'm 46 so Dollar Bill will always be a hero for 69 and 73 if for nothing else and there's plenty else.
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