Yes, welcome back AnitaXanaxNow. http://anitaxanaxnow.typepad.com/ You've been away far too long.
Had a fairly in-depth conversation about HRC with another gambler last night. He said that I wasn't aware of the depth of the "hatred" for HRC out there in SammyLand. I said I found that curious because she neither inspired love nor hate in me, boredom if anything. She had always struck me as an intelligent and capable woman, a very good campaigner, and reasonably far to the right of me politically, but with certain leadership skills. And I for one don't mind that she wields power like a man. That's a step forward. As is having a conservative Black poltician like Obama in the limelight, I suppose.
Panama for the most part is a pretty race-blind place, so a Black-skinned Panamanian wouldn't necessarily feel any kinship with Obama. Most Panamanians, however, feel about the Clintons sort of the way modern Germans feel about Marshall. Or how the Irish felt about JFK. Bill Clinton is credited with the "Panama Miracle." I've tried my best to ignore this and focus on the numbers.
But "ojala que gane la mujer de Clinton" is still pretty nice to hear when the money's down.
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what a lot of people and POLLSTERS fail to grasp is that people will tell pollsters what they want to hear not what they actually believe or will do (trust me this is my job --- if i believed polls, focus groups and tv ratings then everyone would always be watching PBS)
hillary's numbers have always been over inflated --- period. and they still are. people were 'voting' for bill, or thinking they would get bill.
she will get schmopped in NH, it is not about the money -- it is about the perception of her.
kelso, you wrote:
"She had always struck me as an intelligent and capable woman, a very good campaigner, and reasonably far to the right of me politically, but with certain leadership skills."
It's true she's intelligent, in a way. But capable? Well, certainly in traditional political terms, she's "capable", being capable of committing the standard sins of those who seek and those who hold elective offices.
She's capable of lying, and seems to do so at the drop of a hat. Even on national TV, claiming the Monica stories were untrue.
Her declarations on this matter interest me. Either she outright lied, believing she was "capable" of bamboozling the entire country, OR her towering intellect was incapable of spotting her husband's infidelity.
She's a fool either way. Clearly not presidential timber.
Meanwhile, her record shows she's a poor campaigner. However, the smart candidate knows the best strategy is, if possible, to run unopposed. Unless you live in Brooklyn, that's rare. The next best option is to run against buffoons.
Rick Lazio, Hillary's first opponent for the Senate, was a hapless and incompetent buffoon. He may have set records for personal ineptness and his campaign carried no message. I think most New Yorkers were suprised that such a moron had been elected to the House.
In her second run for the Senate, she was faced with the possibility of running against a woman of doubtful mental stability or an alcoholic from Yonkers. Tough competition, I know. Hence, she enjoyed two campaigns that proved the path to elective office is open to absolutely anyone.
On the other hand, she's got competition these days. In the Win, Place or Show in Iowa, she learned she lacks popularity among young voters. Her dismal showing among the college crowd probably expresses the sentiment of young voters nationwide. However, due to the nature of future primaries, she'll probably fare better in the upcoming contests. But she is not a successful campaigner, as the Iowa results show.
You wrote:
"And I for one don't mind that she wields power like a man."
What does the preceding mean? Is there something about her voting record that reflects gender? It can't be her campaign for Government Healthcare during Bill's administration that qualifies her for manhood. Even her own party cringed and stepped out of the room when that disaster peaked.
Meanwhile, her campaign presents her as the candidate with "experience." She's 60. She's been around the block. We know many intimate details of the Clinton household. Thus, she's positioned to comment on some experiences of which she is the champion. Like abortion. I'd like to know if she's had one.
I'd also like her comments on oral sex, both receiving and giving. I've got a feeling she'd have to consult a sex manual before responding and perhaps conduct a poll to tweak her position.
Along those lines of experience, or lack of it, she might establish an unusual first for Democrats if she is nominated. The first Democrat to run for the presidency who has never had an orgasm. There's something about her that says she's been faking it from the start.
N_s:
The woman has had more sex and done more dope in any month of her life than you'll ever do.
That's a velly, velly good thing. Good that she likes to party. Good that you dont.
kelso, you claimed:
"The woman has had more sex and done more dope in any month of her life than you'll ever do."
Interesting response. Knowing a number of Wellesley grads, my sister among them, it's obvious to me you are mistaken about Hillary's wilder moments.
Meanwhile, comparisons with me are meaningless. However, I'm certain her dope consumption has matched mine over the last several years. Zero. There's no morality behind my abstinence. It's just a fact.
Sex? Who's she having it with?
Many, if not all of Princess Di's lovers have revealed their intimate connections to her. But Hillary? Nothing. Even the National Enquirer has no stories about her bedroom adventures.
Meanwhile, it wasn't coital frequency that I mentioned. She's clearly not a pin-cushion. My curiosity and questions were aimed at her sexual nature. However, she's easy to read. Mind-blanking orgasmic ecstacy is beyond her experience. Any possibilities were sublimated long ago, supplanted by an awkward political ambition. Therapy is available. A long stretch in the orgone box might do her some good.
No_slappz:
Your innocence I find very charming. You're a youngster, so I'm figuring you have no idea who Dan Lasater and Dave Vance are.
Oh yeah, N_s, you'll dig this. The old dude who cracked me on the Goncharov over Turgenev bet had some business in Manizales so we're going to get together, hang out, lie about our lives, get up to some silliness,maybe do a first-class impersonation of "Bobby Hughes" and "Father Tom Murphy," who knows?
Again, your innocence is so very charming. Someday, you'll figure out that it's all lies they're telling you and it's really about your family, your buddies male and female, partying, gambling, getting your Hebrew National wet, and being an intellectual every now and then.
Ultimately, you get one choice: START LIVING OR CONTINUE DYING. But I'm afraid David Brooks and Brit Hume have vested interests in not telling you that.
kelso -- why are you bothering with him? he makes no sense at all and will argue just for the sake of arguing
kelso, there is nothing in the histories of Dan Lasater or David Vance that links their cocaine antics with Hillary.
Even the harshest Clinton conspiracy theorists claimed nothing about Hillary in the drug-use department. Additionally, there's no mention of Hillary's sex life at any point except at those moments when critics want to claim she's a lesbian. She is not a lesbian.
Like I said. Potentially the first Democratic candidate to run for the presidency without first having had an orgasm.
By the way, I've eaten at a Ponderosa Steak House or two.
actually, i think n_s plays an excellent devil's advocate ... what he (or is it she?) is saying is not much different than what camille paglia has been saying about hilary clinton for YEARS. remember that her own peers referred to her as Sister Frigidaire. I don't give a shit what her orgasmic capability is, but she's definitely one to be lead more by the mind then the heart. Which isn't a bad thing. It's just a thing.
anita, I agree with you Hillary observations. She is how she is.
DCny: I kind of agree w AXN about No_slappz. I think he's a bright guy and is a good reality check. He's a little in love with his own intelligence, but so what? As some wit once said "youth must be served. Frequently. With chestnuts."
AXN: I cop to having used the term "Sister Frigidaire," but it was more of an insult because I disagreed with her politics, as you know. I found her too conservative. I find her more liberal and certainly more capable than Obama; more of a leader and clearly superior to any of the Republicans. In a fantasy world, Kucinich would have had a real chance.
No_slappz: I have no idea what Hillary did or didn't get up to with Dan Laster and co, but I assure you I know more about her personally than you do, as a good friend of mine was a high school classmate of hers and will be nominated to the 9th Circuit if she is elected President. I also know quite a bit more than you do about the Arkansas underworld of the 1970s than you do. That is if you're not in one of those moods you get in in which you know more about everyone else's own lives than they do.
I'm curious how you could POSSIBLY know whether or not Senator Clinton has any sexual dysfunctions. As far as I've heard she's fully functional. But then again, it could be one of those "moods" of yours again.
I'm also surprised at the antipathy with which you hold her. Her politics are closer to yours than to mine.
No_slappz:
I'm going to give you even more fun. I want and need the PRD in the by-elections here.
Knock yourself out rooting for the U.P.
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